Anyone that follows me on my twitter or youtube will know that recently I’ve been posting a lot of result videos, some fantastic results from the Met Police (London Police force). These are mostly detailed in my Results playlist on youtube.
I’ve been reporting to the Met for the past 10 years, they’ve had various methods, from filling out paper forms and burning disks to fully fledged online forms where you can upload footage.
The later started in early 2018 and since then I’ve made 187 reports. Nearly 70% of these reports have resulted in some form of action; warning letters, driving courses, fixed penalty notices or court action. But 28% have had no action taken!
Whilst no action responses from the Met are sometimes not what I want, I try to learn from each one and work out if I should make similar reports in the future or what information is needed. So in 2018 32% of my reports had no action taken and in 2019 that is down to 25%. I’ve also had an increase of nearly 100% in reports from 2018 to 2019, so the reduced no action is positive.
Their downfall however is the inconsistencies in the responses from the Met on what they will or won’t take action on. I do of course understand the issue with Mobile Phone offences and Barretto Case, although they should just go for not being in proper control, but that’s another story.
So lets look at two report types I have reported and the responses.
Number plate offences.
We all know that there are various things drivers are doing to change/mask their number plates. Things like putting them in the window, incorrect font, markings to make them look different and a recent trend of putting a tinting film over the top of them. Here are my reports:
|AS11CCC||There was a dot between the two ones to make it look like a H.||No action|
|T11OPE||There was a dot between the two ones to make it look like a H||FPN £100|
|Number plate too small on a motorbike and in a position difficult to read||NIP|
|Missing number plate from trailer||NIP|
|Different number plate on trailer||NIP|
|Number plate using incorrect font and makes numbers look like a letter||No response|
|SS11ALY||There was a dot between the two ones to make it look like a H.||No Action|
So 7 reports over the two years. 3 are ongoing, 1 i’ve not had a response yet. But the 3 that I have had a response on are all exactly the same. A dot between the 11’s to make it look like a H. In all cases I provided a view with enough detail to show that it isn’t the fixing bolts.
The first and last were no action for what ever reason, but the second was issued a FPN of £100 for the offence. Why now are they not taking action when they have previously? I asked them, and this is the response I got:
The policy now is that we will not deal with vehicle defect offences. This is because depending on the defect, trained Police Officers need to take measurements, use specific equipment etc, and that is not something which can be done via media in case we are challenged in courtMet Police
It’s a super easy offence, the video is clear as day in regards to my recent report that had no action taken. The reason we have so many issues with people not using the correct format of number plates is because there is A. no enforcement by the Police B. a tiny penalty of £100. Now to some this is a considerable amount of money, but these are not the people that are changing their number plates.
Red Light offences
I’m only going to focus on those going through the junction, and not those not stopping at the first stop line. Whilst they are the same offence from a legal standing, I find they are dealt with very differently.
|Frames since red||Seconds since red||Action taken|
|54||1.8||failed to nominate|
6 points £826 fines
* note I didn’t see the light turn from green to red, so this was technically longer.
17 reports total, the on going ones are likely going to a driving course, FPN or court case. The ones with a very long time are ones where they mostly jumped before it changed.
No Action is a range of 8 – 31 frames
Warning letter is a range of 19 – 29 frames
driving course is a range of 25 – 400 frames
NIP means action is being taken and it’s 24 frames and up.
So there is clearly a lot of overlap on each type, which we would of course expect to some degree, I don’t think they are going through frame by frame to count how bad they are.
Now I did flag on a couple of these reports that there is this overlap. I had a no action on one which was over a second late on the red light. I was told on one report that they wouldn’t take action unless it was over 2 seconds.
We would not be able to pursue an allegation of this sort unless they went through the red lights at least 2 seconds after they change as no court would convict for this.Met Police
Clearly given the several reports under 2 seconds that they are taking action on, this isn’t the case.
We must remember, the amber phase is shown for 3 seconds before the red on all of these traffic lights and amber means the same as red. So these drivers had plenty of time to stop!
I’ve picked these two types of incidences because they are factual and clear cut. I will of course concede that the quality of footage on other reports can lead to ambiguity as to what is actually happening and as such do agree that the footage isn’t clear enough for them to do anything.
To put this all into perspective, and why this system is a positive. Of the 187 reports made so far:
- 61% are issued NIPs (Notice of intended prosecutions)
- 6% are issued warnings
- 28% have no action taken
- 5% are awaiting feedback
Of the 115 reports that have been issued NIPs, 56 are completed:
- 16 were sent on driving courses
- 18 were issued FPNs (fixed penalty notices)
- 22 went to court.
This has resulted in:
- 178 points issued
- £14,490 in fines
I have 59 outstanding NIPs, given the 56 results, we can expect to see a further:
- 187 points issued
- £15,266 in fines
My stats from 2010 till 2018 from all my reports was 1 driving course and 4 court cases, which resulted in
- 18 points
- £1,495 in fines.
So definitely a great improvement in how the Police in London are dealing with reports, however the inconsistency in how they handle clear cut factual reports is disappointing.